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01 - Introduction
to the Trinity Doctrine.
Part 02 - The Father is the Supreme and
Most High God.
Part 03 - Who is Jesus?
Part 04 - True meaning of the word 'God'.
Part 05 - Scriptures that are used to support
the Trinity doctrine.
Part 06 - What christians have said prior
to Nicea.
Part 07 - How
the Trinity doctrine came about.
Part 08 - Why
challenge the Trinity doctrine?
Part 09 - Trinity
doctrine conclusion.
Part 10 - How
can the Trinity doctrine be wrong?
Part
11 - 100
verses that show God and Jesus to be different.
Part 12 - Join a discussion on the Trinity
doctrine.
Part 09 (Trinity doctrine conclusion)
If we consider all the scriptures that we have read so far then we must conclude that the Trinity is not only an inadequate way to describe God, but is actually a false teaching designed to take our eyes of the scriptures and place our trust in man-made creeds.
Similar to the Theory of Evolution, the doctrine of the Trinity is based mainly on imagination and they desperately cling to any scripture that could even have the slightest possibility of backing up their thoughts. But in doing so they have gone off track with the meanings of the scriptures that they quote and change the truth of God into a lie.
The nature of Man will always make idols in the place of God, because the carnal nature can never come into subjection to the will of God. A representation of God made by hands must start as an image in the mind and this is what the Trinity doctrine is, an idol created in the mind of man that has actually been made into idols made of wood, stone etc. It's pride in the intellect of certain individuals who have lead many astray by laying a stumbling block. This doctrine doesn't even claim inspiration as far as I know, yet the scriptures do. Strangest thing of all is that you can contradict scripture, but if you contradict a creed then you are a Heretic, (punishable by death during the dark ages). Many don't realize that their actions are trying to bring back this darkness.
Trinitarians argue that the Trinity has always been taught by the Church and there was never a time that it was not. Of course they would say this, otherwise they would have to admit that it was an addition and therefore not a biblical doctrine nor a foundational one. But if the Trinity doctrine is not taught in scripture, then it is an addition. Now according to history, the original Nicean Creed included only the Father and Son. The Holy Spirit was added in decades later. So it seems clear that the theology was never always taught as they say, rather it developed over time and changed over time.
E.g in Encarta it says the following:
A theology
of the Holy Spirit developed slowly, largely in response to controversies over
the relation of Jesus Christ to God the Father. In 325, the Council of Nicaea
condemned as heresy the Arian teaching that the Son was a creature, neither
equal to, nor coeternal with, the Father. .........Later pronouncements brought
only one important doctrinal change, the 9th-century addition of filioque to
the creed of Constantinople. That addition, that the Holy Spirit proceeds from
the Father and the son, has been a source of discord between Eastern and Western
Christianity ever since.
Microsoft® Encarta®
Encyclopedia 2002. © 1993-2001 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
The only way that we can perhaps try to understand the Trinity doctrine is to say as they say, that God is one nature/substance and then we must assume that this nature/substance spawns 3 personalities. That is the only conclusion if God has 3 personalities and is one substance. This idea is rediculous of course as it assumes that nature is greater than identity and identity is a manifestation of the nature rather than nature being a manifestation of the identity. This idea leans toward a New Age concept of God as being a force of some kind, even if this supposed force manifests 3 consciences and creates many others. But God is an identity and is known as his/him/he etc. God is not an organisation or substance, God is not a thing or it. So Trinitarians deny that God is a person/identity, they say that he is a collective or substance or organisation made up of 3 personalities. But the scriptures teach that God is an identity and shares his nature with his son and even his sons. God is one identity, not 3 identites.
Mark
12:29
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is
this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
So in scripture, we are
clearly shown that the Father is the most High God and he is God to everyone
and everything. Next we have Jesus the Word of God, and He is God to everything
but his Father, he is known as the Lord. Furthermore, we have Man or the Sons
of God, but we are not God to the Father or Son that is obvious, (but
men often act as if we are superior to God, especially when we use an idol made
with our own hand and mind to represent God), but we are gods to the animals
and the earth. Remember we will rule and reign with Jesus, and Jesus will rule
and reign with his Father. We have to respect this divine order. God is not
a creature that we can shape or analyze. He is, and we can only accept him or
reject him. He is beyond our thinking and the only clues to what God is like
is revealed in his creation, by Jesus Christ and God's Spirit.
The Trinity teaches that God is made up of 3 equal personalities, the Father
the Son & The Holy Spirit, and each has existed for all eternity together. But
the scriptures teach that Man came from Christ and Christ came from God, yet
we (men) are also god (theos) & (elohim). Paul teaches us that there are many
Gods, yet for us there is One God the Father. It is the Father who is the Most
High God and Jesus the Christ is the Word of God. Man was created to be God
like. Again it is our Heavenly Father who is the most High God and Jesus Christ
(Yashua) and us (mankind) have the nature of God and we are gods.
So the Divine order is the Father, then the Son of God, and then the Sons of
God. We are the offspring of God. Therefore like any offspring, we will become
like our parents. I.e. Christ
like and ultimately God like. See Acts
17:29
"Therefore
since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like
gold or silver or stone, an image made by man's design and skill.
The Father created all things in the beginning, but through Christ. The Father also saved us through his Son.
Revelation
7:10
And they cried out in a loud voice:
"Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."
We abide in the Father through
his Son. 1John
2:23-24 says.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges
the Son has the Father also.
24
See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does,
you also will remain in the Son and in the Father.
We do all things for God through
the Son according to 1
Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom
all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Our Father will always be our Father, yet Jesus will
call us brothers. See Hebrews
2:11
Jesus Christ is God's firstborn, he was given
birth as the Wisdom of God. He came from God and creation came through
him, he is the
Word of God. Creation is that which was made by God through the Word. This
of course excludes Jesus because he is the Word, rather Jesus was begotten
not created, yet God loved us to the degree that he gave his only begotten
Son, so we can have eternal life. God made all things through him and for him
and God also redeemed us through him .
We must believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. This is essential if you are to be part of the true Church. It is not a requirement to believe that Jesus is the most High God as some say, but rather that he is the Son of God. Jesus is the Mediator between his Father and our Father & his God and our God.
John
20:31
But these are written that you may believe
that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have
life in his name.
Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!
Jesus was the Son of God, is the Son of God, and will be the only begotten Son of God forever. Take note of the following:
Hebrews
6:13
For when God made a promise to Abrahm, because he could
swear by no one greater, he swore by himself.
Hebrews
6:16-17
for men indeed swear by the greater, and an oath for confirmation
is for them an end of all dispute. Thus God, determining to show more abundantly
to the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an
oath.
Hebrews
7:20-21
And inasmuch as he was not made priest without an oath
(for they have become priests without an oath , but he with an oath by him who
said to him: "The LORD has sworn and will not relent, 'you are a priest
forever according to the order of Melchizedek."
Matthew
23:22
And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne
of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
When God could find no greater to swear by he swore by himself...this was with Abraham. But he also did this in an oath concerning Jesus as High Priest. Also, when Jesus taught us not to swear, he made it clear that ultimately, it is the Father we offend. So God did not swear by Jesus, but by, in his view, the highest authority, which was himself.
Now many who believe in the Trinity say that it is a foundational doctrine, in other words they say that you must believe in the Trinity and that Jesus is God in order to be saved. Of course this means that most do not consider this doctrine an optional opinion, rather a/the foundation. Trinitarians will try and tell you that you must believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved. But that is another gospel, the truth is that Jesus Christ (Yashua) is the Son of God. This confession is the foundation off the Church.
The Trinity Doctrine is the foundation of the Harlot Churches which are built on this false foundation. This Harlot Church is responsible not only for much false doctrine, but also the death and persecution of tens of millions of people. Now I am not saying that those who believe in the Trinity are not children of God, rather I am just saying that such a person is participating or building on a false foundation and they need to repent. The words "Come out of her my people" are appropriate here. I usually refer to this false foundation and it's constructions as Christian City, but we should be looking for the Celestial City, the one made without human hands. Most of these denominations are built on top of creeds, they are their foundation. Most Church members have to agree to that creedal statement before they can be truly considered a member. Most Creeds are based on the Trinity doctrine and it is interesting to note that trinities are worshipped in many pagan religions as far back as Babylon itself.Most Trinitarians believe the Trinity doctrine by faith first, then they learn and use certain scripture to back up their belief later. How many people do you know who start with no bias and just read the scriptures and based their theology on what God reveals to them, with no interference of any Creed? We can prove just about anything by starting of with a statement and then taking a scripture here and there. But how many of us read scripture and let that paint the true picture, rather than reading scripture in the light of Creeds that become the template in which scripture must fit.
So which foundation will you build on?
The Trinity doctrine or
the one in Matthew
16:13-18
13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others,
Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
15 "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed
to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,
and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
John
3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever
does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the
name of God's one and only Son.
Galatians
1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a
gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
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