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God had challenged my belief on the Trinity many years ago, as I blindly believed and excepted this doctrine as a pillar of my faith and assumed that it was the foundation of Christianity. But like most Christians, I had never really check it out. I knew at the time that God wants us to know what we believe in and to test all things and also to watch our doctrine closely.
When I started to look into the Trinity doctrine I found many scriptures that really challenged my belief so I set out to understand the truth. When I brought the subject up with other Christians including many people who were older in the faith than myself, that there seemed to be this "do not question attitude" and in the end I decided rather than make waves, I would just leave it and except that the Trinity doctrine was correct even though I felt that I was being untrue to the conviction in my heart. My problem was the fear of man. Many years later God made me face my belief in the Trinity again and he kept putting certain scriptures in front of me. In the end I decided that I would not run away from this anymore and I did a full on study where God divinely lead me to a new scripture, about one each day and each scripture in succession built a picture that really helped me to understand what he was conveying to me. First of all I would like to say that I have a clear understanding of the Trinity doctrine and am very familiar with the scriptures that people use to support this doctrine.
Anyway what I discovered was quite interesting and I will condense what I have been shown below.
From a historical point of view it seems strange to me that one of the pillars of Christianity didn't come into existence or wasn't recognized until 300 years after the death of Christ. On this point alone, I think its strange that we are encouraged not to question this doctrine and worse still, the the circumstances in which this doctrine came about should lead any clear thinking person to be at least suspicious.
I think the fruit of this doctrine is evident. If we exalt Jesus as God, then why not exalt Mary who after gave birth to Jesus. We can now see how Mary came to be called the Mother of God and how worship of the saints was sanctioned. So these creeds became the new foundation and on top of this foundation men built their churches/denominations.
In Revelation 17 we read about the Mother of Harlots or the Great Prostitute who sits on many waters. Many people have speculated on her identity. Some say it is New York or the USA, others say it is Rome. If you are not familiar with this section of scripture, then it would pay to read it now before reading on.
Lets imagine for a minute that it is Rome as Rome is known to this day as the city of 7 hills. Now Constantine the Roman Emperor who dictated to the church so called truth in some way is the original model of the person we call the Pope today, as the Pope sits on a throne with supreme authority to dictate so called truth to the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church admits by it's very name that it's roots are in Rome and many of the traditions come from Pagan traditions and festivals and were renamed as Christian back in the days of Constantine. Now in one sense we can see that creeds lead to the worship of idols and men and changed the truth of God for a lie. But to manage this foundation there needed to exist some kind of organization of men to manage the politics of enforcing such creeds. The organization are of course the organized churches of which the Catholic church is the mother. Perhaps the smaller denominations are the harlots. We also read that the kings of the earth have committed adultery with this woman. We all know that many leaders have befriended the organized church so they can leverage her influence for their own gain and vote. There will however come a time when God will call his children out of her.
Babel, Babylon, Egypt and Rome all have one thing in common. Their motives are to become great and make a name themselves. They also built structures as a way of showing their greatness. But the spirit of Babylon, Egypt or Rome will always enslave the Children of God and in many cases also kill them. In Rev 17 we read that the woman was drunk on the blood of the saints and is guilty of all the martyrs. Well history records the dreadful killings of Christians by Rome and the enslavement of Israel by Egypt, but how many people are aware that the Catholic Church is also responsible for burning to death millions of people of whom many were Christian They were labeled heretics for things like reading scripture, translating scripture or daring to obey the scriptures instead of their tradition. See this page for more details.
Many denominations today still operate under this spirit of control including the persecution of those who question doctrines like the Trinity. The curse of Babel is division, and this is what see when we look at the church today. Each Denomination has its own creed, its own leaders and own customs or tradition. Denominations are the Christian languages just as the natural languages are a result of Babel.
But true unity is something that God will bring about and something that he is already doing. This is not to say that all denominations are evil or a part of this system. Many are being used by God for his purposes. But in times of great ignorance God does compromise for our benefit. The truth is that there really is only one church and the foundation is Christ and the Apostles and the only divisions are geographical. The 7 churches in Revelation are actually 7 cities but one church. E.g. to the Church in Laodecia means the Church/Body of Christ in that particular city. We need to open our eyes in order to see the real Church. When you can really see the Body of Christ, you will never again say, I am going to church because you will realize that we are the Church regardless of your location.
Most denominations today have a Statement of Faith as their foundation and these are usually based on creeds. Often Christians are required to take out membership and that often requires an acceptance of a particular Statement of Faith. This sort of thing is common, yet it is unscriptural and deceives people into thinking that the denomination is the Church and once they have membership they belong to the Church. This couldn't be further from the truth. Anyone can agree to a Statement of Faith or a Creed, yet they could be a mass murderer. True believers believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah. The true Church is made up of God's children and He dwells in them via his Spirit. Denominations on the other hand can contain true believers, but they also contain nonbelievers and even some extreme unrepentant sinners. All true believers should use scripture and the Word of God as our Statement of Faith and we should realize that there is only One Church called the Body of Christ. The head of the true Church is Jesus Christ himself, not a Pope or a President. We would do well to keep away from the words, wisdom and traditions of men.
Now the Trinity doctrine says that God is made up of 3 persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But the truth is that the only true God is the Father. The son is just that, he is the Son of God, not God himself.
John
17:3
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you,
the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Or Ephesians
4:4-6
4 there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called
to one hope when you were called
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Instead of using the Trinity
to describe the God and his relationship with his Son. I prefer to use these
scriptures instead. I think this picture is far more accurate because it is
scripture, not some creed that came from man. John
15:1-2 This scripture shows the
same 3 levels that we see in the scripture below. Note: The word head means
authority, head or source.
1
Corinthians 11:3 The scriptures show us that we believers are united in doctrine by believing
the following:
I can have true unity of purpose with anyone that believes these points. The
Trinity should never be pushed or taught as a doctrine, but today it is taught
not only as a doctrine, but a foundational one. But the Trinity doctrine as
a foundation is another foundation. Another foundation is not the true foundation.
1 "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener.
2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that
does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful.
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ,
and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.
1
Corinthians 3:11
For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already
laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Now Matthew
16:13-18 has a key for us.
13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he
asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
14 They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others,
Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
15 "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
17 Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed
to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
Jesus commends Peter when he declares that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. Now Peter never said that Jesus was God at that opportune moment, but I am sure that many Christians given the same question today would say that he is God, yet that answer is different to the one Peter was commended for. Jesus actually built his Church on this truth, so it is obvious from this alone that the Trinity doctrine is not the foundation of Jesus Church.
Now it is easy to show scriptures that show the Father to be God and there also appear to be a few scriptures that say that Jesus is God (Elohim, Theos). Most of the time Jesus is referred to as the Son of God. Even the Devil and demons called him the Son of God. See Matthew 8:29 & Matthew 4:3-6
But a lot of people also ignore the fact that we humans are also called Gods.
John
10:34 uses the word "theos" to describe Man.
Psalms
82:6 uses the word "Elohim" to describe Man.
The word God is also used for Idols and Satan.
Exodus
20:23 uses the word "elohim" to describe Idols.
2
Corinthians 4:4 uses the word "theos" of this world to describe Satan.
But it must be made clear that 'Elohim' and 'Theos' are not names of God, they are titles in the same way Master is a title. When we see the word God, it is important to read the adjectives to see what kind of God is being referred to. E.g. the Most High God (the Father) is different to the God of this age (Satan).
Now there are many gods as I have pointed out,
but the Father is the Most High God. See 1
Corinthians 8:5-6 which says
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"),
6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came
and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom
all things came and through whom we live.
Also remember that Jesus calls us brethren/brothers. But to the Father we are his children or offspring.
Now Psalm
2:7 says
"I will declare the decree: Yahweh hath said unto me, Thou
art my Son; this day have I begotten thee."
So the name of the Most High God is (YHWH) which is referred to by scholars as Yahweh. So Yahweh (God) is the Father of Jesus. So it is clear that Jesus is not Yahweh. He is Yahweh's Son. Now Jesus in Hebrew is Yashua and he is never referred to as Yahweh. Yashua means "Yahweh saves" or "Yahweh is salvation". So God's name is in his sons name. (Yah)
Ephesians
3:14-15
14 For this reason I kneel before the Father,
15 from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name.
Just like Trinitarians today,
the Jews thought that Jesus was claiming to be God, but Jesus defended this
accusation with the following words in John
10:34-36
34 "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are
gods'?
35 If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came and the Scripture
cannot be broken
36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into
the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's
Son'?
So the Jews accused Jesus of saying he was God and instead of agreeing and saying something like "Yes I am God" Jesus defended himself with the statement "You are Gods (theos) and then he stresses that he was claiming to be the Son of God." Many Christians still make the same mistake today. Read John 10:27-36 to read the above words of Jesus in context. In that context, Jesus even said to the Jews that the Father was greater than himself.
So who is Jesus. The following
Statements are from the scriptures, and should be the words that we trust in
in order to understand who Jesus really is. The last scripture above, shows us that Jesus was not created. Many other
scriptures show us that Jesus is begotten (born). See John
1:18 & John
3:18
Jesus is truly the only begotten Son of God. Yes we too are the Sons of God,
but we were begotten from God through his Word (Christ). All creation was made
this way. But Jesus was begotten directly from God and he is the exact image
of God. And we (the church) are the image of Christ. Again I point out the importance
of 1Corinthians
11:3 and Colossians
2:8-10 which says, Here we can see clearly that Christ is the fullness of God and we the Church
are the fullness of Christ. So consider this, if we use this scripture to say
that Jesus is God, then in fairness we have to say that we are Christ. This
is of course a misinterpretation of scripture. The truth is that Jesus has the
divine nature and God also wants us to share that nature too. So
just as the Deity is in Christ, Christ is in us.
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Colossians
1:12-16
See Hebrews
1:1-6 & John
1:1
See Colossians
3:1-3
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Revelation
1:4-6
See Ephesians
1:22
See Hebrews
1:1-6
See Revelation
3:14
See John
1:3
in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power
and authority.
To be divine and to be the Divine is 2 different things. One identifies a nature and the other identifies a person. God is the Divine and he shares his nature with his family, his sons. So Christ has divine nature as the Son is like his Father. But we can also partake of the divine nature, yet that doesn't make us God.
2
Peter 1:4
Through these he has given us his very great and precious
promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature
and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
Moving on,
Matthew 24:36 shows us clearly that the Son doesn't know everything, yet
God is all knowing.
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels
in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
My confession is that Jesus Christ is Lord and I believe that all will confess this one day. And I also believe that God is Spirit and Invisible and that he resides inside and outside of his creation. See 2 Chronicles 2:6. Similar to physical light, it is invisible except that it reveals all things. Now when light strikes a prism it reflects all the colours and this is like Christ. He reveals and reflects God who is light. Jesus reveals the Invisible Spirit who dwells in him. Jesus has a body and the glory of God is visible to us in Christ. There is no other way for us to se God or to know God or to fellowship with God. Jesus is the only Mediator between Man and God.
Colossians
1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn
over all creation.
Jesus is the Image of God and he is seated on the Fathers throne above creation
and Jesus seats us on his throne.
Revelation 3:21
To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me
on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Jesus calls his Father, God and he says that his God is also our God. See John
20:17
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned
to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my
Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' "
& Revelation
1:1
The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him
to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending
his angel to his servant John,
Also in John
8:28 we read the following:
Jesus said "I do nothing on my own but speak just what the
Father has taught me"
Now 1
Corinthians 15:27 shows us clearly that Jesus is not God.
27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it
says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does
not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
When the Most High God is being referred to, it is always talking about the Father.
John
3:16 says
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life.
To sum up: 1
Corinthians 8:5-6 embodies what I am saying.
5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven
or on earth (as indeed there are many "gods" and many "lords"),
6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came
and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom
all things came and through whom we live.
The Trinity makes and idol out of God. Its no different to making a graven image from your hands as it is to make God into a diagram in your mind. It is the nature of Man to do so. The Trinity and Nicene Creed is the founding document to the man made organized religion that has suppressed and kept in fear many of Gods people. Upon that creed many heresies followed. If its origin is man then its fruit will be death, control and fear and history has revealed the fruit of this doctrine.
God is a person and the Trinity doctrine says that God is a class/family. We know that there are many gods, so the word 'god' can be used in the sense of class, but there is only one God the person otherwise there would be more than 1 God. I and many others including the Jews believe that God is a person, not an organization.
Perhaps God is calling us out of Egypt and her gods. This is where the Trinity doctrine came from and the Egyptians already worshipped a Trinity before the gospel reached them. All they did was replace the names. But the concept remains the same. A Christian appearance but a pagan heart.
Three more scriptures before I finish.
Proverbs
30:4 shows us that the Son of God existed as the Son before he came to earth
as a Man.
Proverbs
8:22-30 Talks about someone who was brought forth by God, yet existed before
creation and witnessed God creating the Cosmos.
Matthew
3:17 says "And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son,
whom I love; with him I am well pleased"
So WHO is Jesus? He is the Christ, the Son of God, the Word of God, the Image of God and the Wisdom of God. He is of God and shares his nature, but he is not that God in identity. The true God is the Father.
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